Many of us grow weary of those who don't view our children as Scripture does - a blessing and a reward. But on March 29th, Obama claimed that some children (those born out of wedlock) are more than a burden - they're a punishment. I guess that's why he sees nothing wrong with allowing infants to be murdered only seconds before they're completely born. In fact, he's also against banning the murder of those who miraculously survive abortions.
"While in the Illinois state Senate, Mr. Obama voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. This Act addressed cases where, during an abortion procedure, the live infant was actually born. The act would have banned killing the living child." - Washington Times
"He [Barack Obama] has opposed the Supreme Court decision that finally upheld the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act against that form of infanticide. Most startlingly, for a professed humanist, Mr. Obama in the Illinois Senate also voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act . . . . Furthermore . . . [Obama] “voted to kill a bill that would have required an abortionist to notify at least one parent before performing an abortion on a minor girl from another state.” . . . - Nat Hentoff of the Washington Times
'In answering a question about abortion while campaigning in Iowa last year, the always-deliberative Mr. Obama said: "I think the American people struggle with two principles. There's the principle that the fetus is not just an appendage, it's potential life..."'
Potential life?
Testimony of a nurse who participated in a partial birth abortion procedure:
"The baby's little fingers were clasping and unclasping, and his little feet were kicking. Then the doctor stuck the scissors in the back of his head, and the baby's arms jerked out. ... The doctor opened up the scissors, stuck a high powered suction tube into the opening, and sucked the baby's brains out. ... Now the baby went completely limp. He threw the baby in a pan, along with the placenta, and the instruments he had just used."
"Then they shall answer and say, ‘Our hands have not shed this blood, nor have our eyes seen it." (Deuteronomy 21:7, NKJV)
It is no surprise; when many Christians don't live like they believe children are a gift from the very hand of God, society soon follows suit. Only now, society, and many of its beloved leaders, has gone beyond viewing children as burdens. Now they are "punishments" - mistaken bits of refuse worthy of death.
"They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to demons and shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; and the land was polluted with blood." (Psalm 106:38, NKJV)
28 earnest comments:
Thank you SO much for your blog--it is like a breath of fresh air. I am a missionary wife and mommy to 5 blessings all under the age of six years--due to the gift of adoption. You can see us www.colorfulkiddos.blohspot.com. Press on and press in. His love compels us,
The McCourtney 7, so far
It is comments like that that make me pray for the Lord to come for us soon. And may He have mercy on our land.
Thank you for keeping us informed on this. A punishment, indeed.
Talk about the ultimate selfishness! If somebody didn't endure the "punishment" of raising babies, none of these pro abortion/infanticide advocates would even be here. I guess they must think their mothers were pretty stupid.
The nurse's account of the partial birth abortion was absolutely sickening. It is easy to forget what really goes on around us. Thanks for keeping us informed.
Carolyn
silly mum to 11, what was I thinking?
It is both frightening and sobering to think that this man will most likely be our next president.
I watched Mr Obama comment that it was "disturbing" to want to take the right to choose away from women. I can't see how he would think that was disturbing but sucking out the brains of a precious person made in God's image is acceptable. Where is common sense?
I remember when Senator Obama made this speech and thinking to myself how sad that this man, who is so close to running our country, feels the way he does about life. I think we know very little about the real man behind the political facade. The little glimpses I've seen so far frightens me greatly.
If I may I'd just like to ever so humbly express my concern at judging a candidate on the basis of his views on one issue. I am no expert on the matter but I do know that at least some of the comments that are attributed to Mr. Obama on this issue are often given out of context. Obviously abortion is an abomination, and partial birth abortion is beyond that~ just unspeakable~ I do not want to minimize that in any way. But we must remember that all of the candidates are sinful men and consequently will have errors in judgment and lapses in character. There are very unethical people in politics who will use misinformation and misquotes to emotionally inflame folks like us who care passionately about children and Godliness.
As far as I know Mr. Obama is the only viable candidate at this point who is a Christian and has acknowledged that "Jesus has died on the cross for my sins." That carries a weight with me, in spite of what I do consider to be grave errors in some of his policy positions. I do not say that I will vote for him, I merely say that we need to be cautious... wise as serpents and gentle as doves:) and not allow ourselves to be manipulated by unscrupulous people on either side of the political divide.
I very humbly hope you will hear my heart in this, as I have the utmost respect for both you and your wonderful husband.
warmest,
Diane
Thank you for this post Stacy, I've been thinking about posting on this issue. I would like to link to your post.
I heard the actual audio of Barack making these comments.
How sad to think there could be enough foolish people in this country to vote for a man with such wicked views.
I'm a single mom of two children born out of wedlock - my "mistake" was sin, plain and simple. But the Lord has so blessed me in spite of this. I have been homeschooling by His grace and for His glory for the last seven years, in spite of our circumstances.
My children are a far cry from punishment.
Thank you for sharing this.
Blessings, MaggieRaye
"As far as I know Mr. Obama is the only viable candidate at this point who is a Christian"
Who CLAIMS to be a Christian; that hardly means he is one. I've read that liberals do this a LOT, even while blatantly ignoring Christian principles. This is exactly why I'm not voting for Obama; I'd take Hilary over him, even.
Thank you for this shocking and revelatory article, Stacy.
Oh how awful! When I saw the video of Obama at the Planned Parenthood event (thanks to James' blog)- and heard Obama's statements on a "woman's choice", and this very comment... my heart sickened! I could not vote for Obama. For although I agree, to base a vote on a single issue is not always wise, I could NEVER trust someone to make decisions for me and the country I love when they don't even value human life, for that is foundational. If you don't value it, how can you do what is best for it? Thank you for bringing this up, Stacy. I fear that many do not follow the WHOLE story and are unwisely following blindly because Obama CLAIMS to be a Christian. What a horrible shame to our Nation when a child- ANY child becomes a mere "punishment"! Well, bring on the punishment... if that indeed is what a punishment is!
May the Lord have mercy on us. soooooo heartbreaking and sobering! Punishment? what is even more shocking is that a person can say something this heinous and still have a an audience supporting him. Praying for our country, jen in al
Guter Gott, I'm pro-choice - when it really is a choice - but the sentence from Mr. Obama is simply ridiculous!
... And the quote from the nurse about the murder (I have no other word to describe it) of that poor child was terrifying, it brought me almost to tears!
Thank you for sharing this post, Mrs. McDonald!
As the Mom of an adopted daughter, Obama's comment about babies being a punishment just sickened me. His comments could influence a whole lot of people. He is 100% pro abortion, and he doesn't hide that fact one bit. And of course he doesn't advocate adoption ever, only abortion. If my daughter's birthmom had taken his stance, my daughter would have been another abortion statistic. I praise the Lord that instead she chose life for my daughter. I pray that this man does not get to be president of this great nation. I don't even want to think about him leading this country.
I would never vote for ANY candidate that supports partial birth abortion, etc.
I personally do not believe that any person with a "personal" relationship with Jesus could vote in a manner inconsistent with His values.
Before she was saved, my mother had 2 children out of wedlock in the 1960s.
If she had believed we were "mistakes", and sought an abortion (it wasn't legal yet but there were ways to get one), I wouldn't exist. My sister wouldn't exist.
My 3 children wouldn't exist. My nephew wouldn't exist.
Any children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc. my children or my nephew may have one today wouldn't exist, either.
There are no "mistakes" when it comes to children.
How sad that he would consider murdering his own grandchild.
I pray daily this man does NOT become President.
Lisa T.
Thank you for this post. It's so disgusting that you can't believe people would support or actually DO those horrible things. Yet another reason not to vote for this man.
I could have hung that poster in my bedroom a few years ago! I didn't want kids ever. Although I thought kids were cute I was totally against having any of them myself! (and I now know that this is because my feminist brain-washing had me convinced that children are a curse.)
I didn't want to date or engage in all that casual sex stuff and so I tried to find a way to have a christian courtship. I remember I signed up to a very respectable Catholic service that helped men and women court rather then date. I remember how my fear of having kids (not the birth part but the having them in my life part!) caused me to never be able to take the next step after a man showed interest in getting to know me. I was totally paralized by my horror of having kids!! Years and years dragged on ~ I knew I couldn't marry unless I was open to life so I didn't marry! I stayed single and childless!
When I met my now-Husband Erlend I was still horrified by the thought of having kids but several years had passed and I had sat down with God several times and said, "Lord, I can't do this ~ but I know that You can help me! I trust you God. If it is Your will that I get married then please help me to have the courage to have kids! I want to do what's right!"
Erlend wanted kids of course! What good man wouldn't?! And I wanted Erlend and I wanted to give him kids. But I was sooooo scared about that! I can't even begin to describe the terror and horror I felt about having kids as we became engaged... and then married... and then intimate... I married Erlend because I had made the decision to be open to life and I honsetly trusted that God would help me ~ even from the midst of all that fear!
I'm sad to admit that for the first few months every time I had my period I was HAPPY and RELIEVED!! How twisted is that? But even then I would beg God to please, bless me with a baby! And I would say to Him over and over again even as I shook with fear of falling pregnant after each intimate moment with my husband... "I trust You, God! I trust You! I know You can help me to do this!! I know You don't hate me for feeling like I feel! I know You understand that I have been programed by feminism from a young age and that this isn't the real me!! HELP ME!!!! Save me from this stupid brainwashing!!" (Sorry but my prayers are not very fancy...)
It took a while to get pregnant ~ I was married in July 2006 and only became pregnant in February 2008. In now see that delay as the will of God because in that time my fear of having kids became less and less as I prayed more and more until the moment when... my period did not arrive! Hmmmm. Two weeks later I said to Erlend that I think I might be pregnant? He said he had had his suspicions because I didn't seem to have had my period. (I thought I hid that from him rather well all this time?? I've come to learn that he's an observant man!!)
We went to the nurse and had a pregnancy test and sure enough it was positive! Erlend was so shocked with joy that he couldn't even speak and I was HAPPY! I couldn't believe it! Joy filled me from head to toe and I just stood there grinning like a Cheshire Cat! God had heard my prayers and He had helped me and all of that trust that I had had in God had not been misplaced!!
God hadn't abandoned me ~ but by abandoning myself to God I had been blessed with two wonderful blessings: pregnancy and HOLY DEPROGRAMMING from all of that horrible feminist brainwashing that had held me captive in chains of fear!! I had abandoned my will to God and said, "I am the handmaid of the Lord!" (Even though I'm scared to death...)
Well, now that I was pregnant I kind of totally panicked and I said, "OH NO! How can I do this? How can I be a good mother?" I was practically running around in circles as I thought about having a baby on hand 24 hours a day... it wasn't the physical work of a baby that scared me, it was my worldly SELFISHNESS that scared me. How would I handle the demands of a child when all I've ever known was, "I'm not having kids because they'll demand too much of me!!"
I said asked God, "Please help me get over myself! This isn't the way I'm supposed to be! This isn't natural!"
And then of course there were the practical thing that are involved with babies... with my mother dead and my family thousands of miles away who would help me figure out how to care for a baby?! I said, "GOD! I don't even know how to bathe a baby and every baby I hold starts screaming in terror!! I don't even know how to operate these breasts that You gave me! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!?!" I was basically panicking about everything all at the same time!! So I just started howling to God and begging for His help in my usual uneloquent way...
A moment later the most amazing peace filled me. I didn't hear words but then again I did ~ I have no idea how to explain it! The answer came from within me?? As crazy as that sounds?? Was it the Holy Spirit maybe? Either way, I heard a gentle "voice" speaking within me saying something like, "Whatever you lack as a mother I will make up for with my grace." (I can't remember the *exact* words but it had to do with making up for what I was lacking as a mother and doing so with grace...whatever grace is. I'm not sure.)
(I have no idea what that means except that God is going to help me be a good mother, especially when I'm personally lacking in some skill or even maybe feeling resentful about the baby taking up my time or whatever.)
So, even though I was still convinced that I was totally incapable of being a good mother I did what I did back when I was afraid to have kids: I trusted God. I said, "I trust You. I know that You will not abandon me to my selfishness and leave me to do this mothering all by myself!!"
Now I'm 17 weeks along and even though I still have that feeling of, "How am I going to DO this?! I don't even know how to (fill in the blank...)" I'm at peace because I know God is going to help me every step of the way! Best of all, I'm so incredibly happy to be having a baby! I see now that if only women would TRUST GOD even as they quake with fear ... then they would come to be happy about being pregnant and they would be at peace about being a mother.
How many women would forgo abortion if they trusted God?? Abortion... it seems to me that it's the choice of those who do not trust God! It's the solution found at the end of the dark tunnel of panic and terror and no God! No wonder women run to the abortion clinic for "salvation" ~ no one has told them about trusting God! Abandonment to God, rather then panic, is the only way to deal with anything in life!
Well, I apologize if this post is too long...
GOD BLESS!
Michelle Therese
Like Tevya says in Fiddler on the Roof, "World's curse!?! May the Lord smite me with it and may I never recover!" I recognize that the quote is out of context, but I think it sums up our family's view:) May God smite us with the world's idea of a punishment. We enjoy all seven of ours, even the ones that were born at hard times.
Even when I was faced with the idea of having a baby out of wedlock, the first thing that crossed my mind is that it would be a present from God. Only later did my mind think, how I would support the baby and I realized as long as I followed what God wanted me to do now that he would make sure that the bundle of joy would be taken care of. I would just have to follow Jesus.
We found out a month later it was a false alarm, but it was the happiest month of my life (except when I was little) and I had prepared to marry the young lady that I had fallen into sin with to make everything right in God's eyes. He decided though that this child was not meant to be and the union would not be right so I am also glad that is how he chose this to proceed.
For those who believe Obama is a Christian just because he says so,I would just urge you to take a look at the so called men of the cloth he has followed and were his mentors.The church he goes to follows Black Liberation Theology(basically black is supreme)You don't need to look much farther than his race baiting white hating pastor to see that.Just because someone claims to be a Christian doesn't mean it's so. A lot of cults do that.Jesus says "You'll know them by the fruits they bare." Anyone who can say that it's okay to terminate a baby at all much less full term and if it happens to come out a live just kill it cannot be following the same Jesus I follow,who commands "Though Shall Not Kill" He also is for homosexual marriage and is a radical socialist.I would urge you to read his book Dreams from my father.Where he actually says he learned to loathe the white race,even though he is half white.You can't always judge a book by it's cover.I would urge you to investigate into this man a bit more.Frankly his anti-Israel Palestinian ties frighten me as well as his friendship with an unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers.
Poweful post, Stacey. My heart aches each day as I ponder and pray about the many infants who will die thru abortions... just this morning, I prayed with the kids about abortion, and praying earnestly that our nation will repent of this grievious sin and crime. Oh may God help our nation!
gloria
ps. I feel so discouraged about the upcoming pres. race -- I don't feel any of the candidates are strongly pro life. Sigh :(
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/03/ap-obama-clinches-democratic-nomination-with-superdelegates/
Heaven help us - it seems the man has just clinched his party's nomination.
Kamilla
Well I guess God is allowing me to enjoy my punishment. It makes my heart heavy to hear people talk about children like they are things to be dealt with. My mother had abortions in the 70's (just a procedure). She is nearing 60 now and her heart still hurts for the children she killed in ignorance.
A punishment, huh? The thought of what would happen in our nation if that ideology were embraced by all makes my blood run cold. While I don't believe a baby is a punishment it certainly is a consequence. I was just thinking yesterday of what my life would have been like if I had avoided the consequence of my daughter by having an abortion. I was in highschool and unmarried. Or, what if my parents had put me on birth control when they thought I might be sexually active. I was an out of control rebellious teenager living a life of complete immorality. Instead they said, "You must not kill this baby."
If I had not had my daughter I would have never felt that over-whelming love and the complete helpless feeling of knowing that I could only do so much as a parent to protect her. I would never have been brought to me knees humbly and repentant before God begging for his mercy and asking for help in raising this precious child. I would never have known how God can truly redeem anyone through the blood of Christ. I would never have known how He can take what the world sees as a tragedy and turn it into something beautiful. I would never have know what it truly means to lose oneself in Christ is to truly find oneself.
My daughter is 18 next month. How many daughters would be her age if they hadn't been slaughtered on the altar of their mother's god - herself?
I was more scared of Hilary than B.O. as president, but really, I have no clue where we are headed.
This is horrible sounding!
I know that often that to a young person facing a pregnancy they feel like they are being punished with having a child, so should we take away all consequences of not living like you should?
Maybe we should not have punishments when people speed either, because they were just enjoying themselves........
What that nurse said... ...about actually seeing a partial birth abortion take place... ugh.
I happen to know a man whose mother did not want him when she became pregnant.
Today, it would have been easy to fix that. But abortion was illegal when she was pregnant. She tried to have an illegal abortion, but couldn't find a doctor who would do it.
So she found some pills to swallow.
They came back up.
She she tried strenuous work, to make herself have a miscarrige.
It didn't work; she had a strong healthy body.
When nine months had passed, lo and behold, she gave birth to twin little boys.
She gave them to someone else to raise.
Now those two little boys are men. Between the two of them, they have 10 children.
Twelve people.
Twelve people that Obama wouldn't have cared about. Twelve people whose lives would have been snuffed out. They never would have had a chance to live.
When I hear anyone talk about "womens'choice," my brain screams protests. What about the baby's choice?
Would those same people like to take a gun in their hand and kill ME?
Yup.
No, they wouldn't say that, but it's true.
They would have had me killed.
And my siblings.
And my cousins.
You see...
...one of those little boys was my Daddy.
And I don't care WHAT Obama says about his "faith." The BIBLE says "THOU SHALT NOT KILL."
I stumbled upon this blog from another one and, while I am not in agreement with everything, I find that it is a thoughtful forum. I would respectfully like to add to the discussion that, as someone who will likely be voting for Obama in the fall, I will also be voting based on pro-life beliefs. At the current time, no matter what my beliefs on abortion, I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who would continue to kill innocent men, women, and children every day in Iraq. For numbers, see: http://www.iraqbodycount.org. I really feel that it is a shame that the violence against families in Iraq is not often mentioned in discussions of preserving life and politics. This is a case where my taxes have funded killing which I do not condone. Again, I bring this up respectfully and recognize that fellow commenters may already be consistent in this regard. Thank you for allowing me to comment.
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