I received a comment on my blog post below and I decided it was important enough to address here as it's own post. Here is her question:Can't "modest" be pants (not tight ones), too? I can't understand why being modest means wearing only skirts. I must be missing something.
When I see any woman wearing a dress, I think "legalistic church"... which is incorrect, I know. But, I wonder if this is what society thinks. Our society just doesn't wear skirts anymore... If we want to meet them where they are at, shouldn't we dress like society but in a modest fashion?
Can pants be considered modest? Sure they can. I have known women who were most assuredly feminine and very modest in a pair of loose pants. The woman that first comes to mind as an example is one of the most modest and feminine women I know. Her pants don't cling to her back side in a way that might distract others (they are loose and almost flowing) and they aren't frumpy or unfeminine (like a large pair of man's overalls) either! Does that mean I think overalls are sinful or that I get to decide how loose is loose enough? No.
My friend has an air of modesty and femininity mostly because she herself is modest and feminine. After all, what's on the inside eventually shows up on the outside. She displays a lovely spirit...and it shows.
In like manner, you may know women who seem to be dressed modestly from head to toe, but their demeanor is not modest. Perhaps they have a "come hither" attitude when talking to the opposite sex; or walk and carry themselves in a provocative way. It may be they have a "look at me" attitude. Trying to get attention all the time by being loud and obnoxious, speaking in a crude or course way, or speaking of things which should be kept private in mixed company can also be immodest. This type of behavior exposes the heart, as immodesty surfaces through the "modest" clothes. The same thing can even happen on the Internet.
So in many ways, clothing isn't the issue - the heart is. That being said, as Christians, what's on the outside should be consistent with what's on the inside. If we claim Christ, then we have a responsibility to represent Christ honestly, not “follow the crowd.” I don’t need heathen designers telling me how I should dress. Let them dress (or not) themselves. If they happen to come up with a good design, then I’m happy to wear it. But, if it’s not modest or if it’s just plain ugly, why should I wear it just to follow the trends?
My daughters love to sew and design their own dresses. They have borrowed the beauty from different eras in history as they’ve learned to create patterns. Last week, my 16-year-old wore a dress that her sister, Tiffany, helped her make. It was a pattern from the 50’s. Next time they make it, they’ll probably modify it and get a little more creative with it. As they learn, they’re able to do this. They've also made Regency dresses, Edwardian dresses, even Roman-inspired dresses. Does that mean we’re “stuck” in some past era in history? Only if you think it’s beneficial to reject anything from the past simply because it’s “out of style.”
We can create our own styles. We don't have to obey the fashion gurus in New York or France or wherever they are. We don’t have to make a fashion statement; we can be the trend setters by making a loveliness statement. The hip hugger/mini skirt crowd has had their turn long enough. Christians should stand up and start taking the lead; that’s part of taking dominion.
God’s ways are best and we should be proving it, instead of following the world saying, “Please, please listen to me about Jesus, see, I’m wearing your clothes and speaking your language.” We should love the unlovely, but, that doesn’t mean we have to become unlovely for them to listen. Talk about vain striving.
We should proclaim Christ for all to hear and show them there’s a better way. We should love them enough to have something for them. So many times ladies try to package modesty into a nice list of rules. We just love rules, don't we? Sorry, there is no such list. It’s funny we have people making lists for us and then saying we made the list. LOL
Jesus said that if a man looks upon a woman to lust after her he's already committed adultery with her in his heart. Jesus wants our hearts to be modest. It’s more than just the outward action – but, that doesn’t mean the outward action is unnecessary. That’s where we see Christian liberty abused and perverted.
If our hearts are truly modest, then our demeanor, our dress, our speech, and attitude will all eventually line up. Sometimes it means we need to be taught and challenged, but it eventually happens. If it doesn’t, then we need to check our hearts. If you really, really want a list, here's one:
1. Does what you wear reflect a heart focused on the Lord Jesus Christ?
2. Does what you wear communicate a love for others or selfishness?
3. Is what you’re wearing likely to cause a man to lust?
4. Does what you’re wearing draw the eye (by being too tight or revealing) to areas of the body that should be covered for everyone but your husband?
5. Is what you’re wearing going to expose intimate areas of your body if you bend over?
6. If you honestly examine your motives are you wearing what you’re wearing to attract the opposite sex?
7. Does your choice of clothing speak dishonestly of who you are?
8. And here’s the most important one. Does what you wear point to Jesus or to yourself? Do your clothes say, “Look at me,” and in so doing, distract others from God? And let me remind you, this can be done in clothing that is not the least bit sexually inticing.














15 earnest comments:
People don't wear skirts anymore? I have more skirts for sale in stores and seen them on people this past 2 years than ever before!!! I know they may not be modest, but since I am short it is nice for me as they are finally the right length!!! Maybe it depends where you live?
Martha,
Try counting the women you see in skirts and the total number you see when you're somewhere that a wide variety of people go- the library, etc. You'll see a startling proportion towards pants once you put a number on it.
-Katie
Stacy,
I hope you don't mind but I copied and pasted this post to my blog (and left a link to this)...I think it tactfully answered any questions that my "rant" (mentioned in the last post - comment) would have raised. You are much more eloquent that I!
Hugs,
Carmen
Stacy,
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question in so much detail especially since I'm sure you are very busy. I didn't mean to make it anonymous but I'm “new” to bloging so I guess I messed things up. I'm a 24 yr old mother of three (ages three and under).
I have never been “fashionable”... I don't care much for what is hip or not. I've always gone to second hand stores and not really payed much attention to what others are wearing. But, I have always worn pants. Loose-fitting (not baggy) jeans and loose t-shirts make up my main wardrobe. I guess that is fine – since it doesn't draw attention to any particular body part. I just didn't know if I was “missing” anything.
I guess I will just ask my husband whether or not he thinks skirts cover the bottom area more than jeans do. That's probably the reason for wearing skirts, right?
Sarah B.
http://strivingtitus2woman.blogspot.com/
Women should be pretty and feminine...that is how God made us, distinctly different from men :)
Another interesting question to ask your husband might be what he thinks looks pretty on you, what makes you look feminine, what he thinks is beautiful...I would be interested in hearing what he says :)
Aside from being modest, skirts and dresses (that are pretty and feminine, and cheap as can be from the thrift stores-I buy most of mine for less than $2 on the non-sale days) can give off a whole different impression of loveliness and beauty, and I will agree with Stacy that some women in modest, feminine pants are far more "pretty and feminine" than some women in skirts or dresses, and that so much of it has to do with the attitude of the heart :) One can "cover the bottom area" and look completely unattractive and unfeminine-like; I don't think that is the point. Our clothing should say something about who we represent (our God) with holiness and humility-and beauty!
~evy
Dear Stacy,
I appreciate your comments. I am a 38-year old single Christian man and I am sometimes embarrased how single women my age can "work the room" in Sunday School. I have also taken a couple of ladies aside and shared with them about how revealing their buttoned shirt was. When I gently asked them to use one more button (feeling somewhat ashamed myself of the ravages inside me), both of them berated me and insisted it was my problem and not theirs. Our friendship was reduced drastically, too.
However, my question has nothing to do with all of that. :) You made an interesting statement that I think has a story behind it: "That's part of taking dominion." Would you mind explaining what you mean?
Many thanks and God bless!
Stacy,
I am still confused. My 15-yr-old daughter only likes to wear "modest" jeans (higher waisted and not tight) and T-shirts that were made for women. Is it impossible to change her to skirts and dresses if we didn't start from the beginning? Since reading your book and listening to several conservative homeschool conference speakers, I've been convicted to not wear pants anymore, and it's now a huge struggle in our family since my oldest daughter won't budge.
My confusion is thinking that I thought that wearing dresses and skirts only was part of being feminine.
Thank you!
Heather
Hi William,
This is Stacy’s husband, James. Let me take a crack at your question.
In a nutshell, we believe in an optimistic eschatology, meaning that the mission of the Church will result in a converted world; that the Great Commission of Matt 28:18-20 will come to pass – every nation will be a disciple of Christ.
This mandate was first given in the Garden (Gen 1:28), then to Noah (Gen 9:1), then as a promise to God’s covenant people (Gen 17:6, Lev 26:9, Acts 2:39). We believe the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ will be spread to every nation and that the Church will be a glorious Bride.
This is accomplished as Christians live their lives in obedience to Christ, loving the Lord with all their heart, soul and strength and loving their neighbor as themselves (Matt 22:37-40). God uses His people to proclaim the Gospel in love. As hearts are turned to the Gospel, one by one, the world is converted.
Taking dominion starts when we allow the Lord to take dominion of our sinful hearts. When this happens, everything we do is done for God’s glory (1 Cor 10:31). And, should God give us children, we bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord (Eph 6:4), expecting that He will pass the baton of faith from us to them, and then to the nations.
Thus, we are not obsessed with the return of Christ, rather we work in faith for the fulfillment of God’s promises and for the day that all of Christ’s enemies are defeated (Psalm 110:1, Phil 2:9-11).
Grace and Peace,
This is our family's clothing testimony:
My mother changed her wardrobe as well as the wardrobes of my sisters and myself, after hearing the testimony of a woman at an ATI conference. The lady who spoke told of how God got her attention about her clothing choices by telling this story. This lady's husband asked her not to wear pants in public, and she willingly complied. One day came, however, when she decided to run into town quickly with out changing out of her pants. While in a store, a man asked her "Are those new pants?". Was she shocked! After returning home, and telling her husband and asking his forgiveness, she resolved to not wear pants anymore.
This caught my mother's attention, and our clothing changed soon after. At the time we girls were younger, and it was not at all an issue, but I am very grateful that she has taught us to be very careful how we dress!
Modesty is a heart issue as well as a clothing issue, and I've thought a little bit more about the verse "Man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart", it seems that many of us concentrate on the latter part of the verse, but we do need to pay attention to the "outward", and make sure it matches the heart!
I am encouraged by reading your blog, Mrs. McDonald. We young ladies need encouragement especially when the road gets rough! Thank you so much :)
Blessings in Christ,
Allison
Thanks for the great post, Stacy!
Another good question to ask (for the young ladies) is "Do my clothes honor my father and mother?".
We all admit that we shouldn't wear things that make people break God's law...but we don't like that question, in today's world.
How many Christian young people would not be willing to have Mom or Dad go into their closets and remove anything that they didn't like?
great article/post...first at your blog....it is lovely......I will be back.
Deby
I'm a Catholic girl who has been looking around for modest jeans and pants. Are there any non-mainstream clothing stores out there that sell pants?
Ah, Stacy, thank you for your insights. I'm a young mother who is learning so much about being a woman after God's heart...
I would love to wear skirts more often, but am distant from women who wear them for every occasion and weather. Could you address the practical issues associated with wearing skirts and dresses? (i.e. What do you suggest a skirt-wearing woman wear while exercising, running, working outdoors, etc.? What cold-weather options have you discovered? What guidance do you give to little girls as they wear skirts to run, jump, and play?)
Any advice you can offer will be greatly appreciated!
This is an interesting topic. I wear skirts a lot, but not exclusively, and I always have. If I'm honest I've got to say that this is partially because they suit me and somewhat out of modesty.
I choose to not wear them exclusively, and I and careful about how I wear them (not too short of course, or tight, but not too long or loose either) because where I live such attire is charactistic of a sort of legalistic Christianity I choose not to embrace. Perhaps that issue isn't important to the other commenters on this blog, or the original responder, but it was the primary question and as far as I can see it wasn't really addressed.
The way I read scripture we are clearly mandated not to practice our piety before others: how is dressing in a sterotypically "Christian" way not doing that? I'm really wondering and I'm not trying to debate.
This is a very good article with very good points. The questions you ask others to ask themselves are very modest, (I mean, not extreme or "legalistic") and make very good sense. As Christians we want to bring others to God, not pull them away from God. And I also agree that it's a person-to-person choice...not wearing pants may be the right thing for Allison, where as for me as a disabled 13 year old, pants are necessary to cover up myself. And as long as they're following those guidelines you gave, I really see no problem with it. I think it's a personal decision, and like madge said, it also depends on where you live. You don't want to push people away from God because they think your are a legalistic "bible-basher" who thinks they're "higher than thou". You can still be modest without seeming so "extreme" that you cannot reach out to others, if you know what I mean.
And William, I think those woman are very silly if they think that. I say it is very noble for you to admit those things. Bravo =)
~Alex
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